[/caption]The new ‘continuation’ Crocker motorcycle was unveiled at the Quail Motorcycle Gathering in May 2012, and Michael Schacht, who owns the Crocker Motorcycle name and built that first prototype, offered me a test ride next time I was in LA. Can’t pass up an opportunity like that, so I met Schacht at his warehouse/assembly shop, where sat the rough makings of the next 15 Crocker v-twins. Yep, he’s already making a limited run, ‘whether I have orders or not, I’m just going to build them’. Schacht has invested heavily in cash and time and reputation to make the patterns and cast the parts necessary to build a whole motorcycle, and that first Crocker Big Tank discussed in Cycle World that May was made from the same batch of rough metal seen in these photos.A deconstructed motorcycle is an excellent teaching device, and Schacht pointed out the changes Al Crocker incorporated during the evolution of his Crocker big twin between 1936 and 1942, when WW2 restrictions put an end to civilian motorcycle production. Schacht doesn’t make the first ‘hemi head’ type engine, the super rare first models Crocker built in ’36; while this variant commands the biggest dollars, issues with rapid wear on the valve gear means the later parallel-valve heads are more sophisticated (those first ‘hemis’ had open rockers, springs, and valves, while the later engine is totally enclosed). The ‘hemi’ cylinder head is the only non-option when ordering a new Crocker v-twin; the early ‘Small Tank’ frame with different steering head lugs and unbraced gearbox/lower frame castings are ready to assemble, as is the later ‘Big Tank’ style, which most newbies love as they’re more glamorous, while afficionados prefer the smaller tank, which really shows off that fantastic big twin engine.Michael Schacht has something to prove. He’s happy to regale anyone in earshot with tales of intimidation from a few old-time Crocker collectors, who take serious issue with his style, his business methods, and perhaps the mere fact that he’s done what they said couldn’t be done. In a way, Schacht’s tales mirror the difficulties Al Crocker faced after building a better bike than Indian and Harley, the last two American motorcycle manufacturers left standing after the Depression. After HD allegedly threatened their wheel supplier (Kelsey Hayes) with a massive loss of business, Crocker suddenly found he couldn’t buy wheels for his bikes. Solution? If you wanted a Crocker, you had to supply your own wheels. Such tales, water under the bridge today, are meat and drink to Crocker lovers, who have embellished the reputation of their favorite machine to such effect that you’ll need $300k to buy an original.Schacht is asking half that for his new machine. How does it compare? The test machine is completely paint-free, to show the world how it was built, and that it’s indeed all-new. It’s a Big Tank, with those lovely cast-aluminum pannier gas bags customizers have been copying for 70 years now. Same with the tail light; as seen on thousands of Harleys (ironically) and bobbed Triumphs through the decades. Like George Brough, Al Crocker was a masterful stylist; unlike GB, he was a trained engineer, and with the help of Paul Bigsby (inventor of the ‘whammy bar’ on electric guitars), he built his own engine and gearbox, which were an advance on anything available in the US at the time, even after HD introduced their Knucklehead (6 months after Crocker got the jump on big OHV twins).In true American tradition, the Crocker is robust to the point of tankliness, with a cast-steel gearbox forming the under-seat frame, and everything overbuilt. Schacht chose ‘big’ for his first engine, which is 1800cc; Crockers were originally supplied from 1000cc upwards, and the dimensions of this engine are copied from Chuck Vernon’s original machine. In other words, it’s a monster, and I had no real desire to break an ankle starting it, so we used rollers. It fired up easily, with a healthy v-twin bark which does Not say potato-potato; once settled into an idle, the ground shook with the near-liter explosions going off in each cylinder. With right hand throttle and left hand advance, the controls are pretty conventional (Indians, with their reversed handedness, take a moment’s thought if you’re not used to them), and thankfully, the rocker foot clutch is fully sprung, and not a ‘suicide’ job like the previous Crocker I tested in August. The big Meisinger saddle and wide pull-back handlebars are pictures of comfort.Knocking the handshift lever into first, the clutch proved progressive and light, and after using it once or twice, its action was familiar and I never gave it another thought. Shifting was easy in every gear, there was no whine, and the clutch held firm, even cracking the throttle wide open from a dead stop. The upside of that move was serious acceleration. Weighing just over 500lbs, the Crocker is no lightweight, but the torque is fantastic, and the power addictive. Starts in second gear were no problem, and loping along in third gear meant 60mph at around 2400rpm. I didn’t try a full-throttle/top speed test, but my seat of the pants assessment is an easy 110-120mph top whack. The big beast is fast. Not just fast, but smooth; riding up and down the rev range never induced vibes, the big motor is well-balanced and surprisingly mellow.The chassis felt rock-solid because it is, and the handling was totally neutral, with zero waggles or wobbles or dropping-in or lagging on corners. My only criticism is the brakes; they suck, even for a guy who’s used to crap anchors. I would have been surprised if the left-hand front brake lever did much, but rear brakes on rigid bikes will usually leave a black streak if required – no way on this one. On such a fast machine, at least one good stopper is essential, but I’ll mark this citation a correctable offense, as I’m sure it can be sorted out.I could picture myself riding the Crocker a long distance, and having a blast doing it. With smooth, massive power, good handling, and a comfortable riding position, I’d be pig-in-shit happy to grind those footboards all day long, romping up mountains and leaving a fantastic sound in my wake. The other upside of riding a Crocker is looking at a Crocker. The bike, even (maybe especially) in the unpainted state, is simply gorgeous, that unique mix of tough and elegant which custom builders have always sought, and rarely matched. Is all that, the looks and the ride, worth $150k? That, indeed, is the question, one which builders of other ‘new’ old bikes (eg, Brough Superior) are waiting to hear answered. I’m sure we’ll hear plenty of your thoughts. The Road Test was combined with a wet plate/collodion photo shoot; here Paul d’Orleans is captured on wet plate. [MotoTintype.com]
That is a beautifully executed machine. I wish Schacht success in this venture. As you have rightfully noted, the prices of these new gems from the past gives one pause but, if any deserve to flourish, The Crocker must surely be among them.
I hardly started this article about the Crocker and Schacht and got irritated, I Andrew schywiola built the first Crocker here in Toronto On. Canada in 2006 to 2007. I and Daryl Tearne worked 10 to 14 hour days to get him and the Crockers, a parallel valve big tank and the concept bike, to a show in Cincinnati (I didn’t attend) and International Concours D’Elegance on the golf course of the Ritz Carlton San Francisco Half Moon Bay in May 2007, Schacht wouldn’t even pay for our hotel rooms, or even chip in for my fuel to ride out there from Toronto, he also never payed Daryl or I for the hours to build the bikes, lots of promises though. He still calls me, around new years usually, and tries to get me to work for him again, never mentioning money. Google my name, he misspelt my name almost giving me credit once in an article on line Visual Gratification. He is not gonna like this,,,, if its printed.
Andrew, I know Michael has a spotty history with his former partners and others in the old bike world. I haven’t heard a peep from him in a couple of years, and no further bikes have emerged from that huge pile of raw castings…
We may have met at the Legend of the Motorcycle Concours at the Ritz Carlton in Half Moon Bay, as I was a judge at all 3 events there.
all the best, Paul
Sadly, Andy chose the wrong side of the Crocker battle with obvious remorse. What Andy did do was help assemble a non running (no trans, hollow engine) mock up prototype used to represent the Crocker brand. His work at that time was greatly appreciated along with the all the others involved in the Crocker project including the engineers, foundries, machinists, welder, painter ect. The breakup of the Canadian Crocker Co, like most corporate breakups (especially when passion is involved) was painful for most involved. That was 2006. Fast forward to today, Crocker has since relocated to its place of origin, is alive, well and producing OEM replacement parts in Southern California for Crocker owners and restores world wide.
Thank you Paul, I’m still building old American, Brit (mostly Nortons) and Euro &&& near the beach in east Toronto, Schacht said last year he wanted a Norton commando, I told him I could build him exactly what he wanted, year & mod., I have manny, He of course lost intrest when I wanted a fair price for the build.
Stay cool Paul, I love these vintage , all motorcycles
Schacht saw that in me,,, He saw an easy mark
Andy
I still love the crocker, and would build more for Schacht, if I would get a fair shake
Andy
I ride for the pleasure & alone for the solitude. It doesn’t matter to me what make & model one rides as long as it gives them passion, pleasure & joy!
Ooh so deep, spiritual and screen, you must be one with peace. I feel the same Grasshopper
Michael Schacht did NOT build the prototype Crocker which he showed at Quail Motorcycle Gathering as he claims in this article. Patrick Folger of Prestige Mold in Anaheim, CA is the person who actually engineered and built this Crocker prototype. Michael Schacht still owes Patrick Folger a lot of money for the years of painstaking work it took to build this amazing motorcycle. He has promised to compensate him for almost 8 years and has barely paid anything. The next 15 bikes he plans to build will never become a reality because Patrick Folger is no longer involved. As of 2020, Patrick Folger has severed professional ties with Michael Schacht and the Crocker Motorcycle Group.
Pat Folger should be proud of his own workmanship and achievement , even though hes been used and unpaid. Id be prepared to write his version of events so people can make up their own minds. Selling bikes is not the goal, selling parts for incomplete bikes is where the gold is. There is a bigger story in the back ground
Seems these sordid tales sure touched a nerve, I edited it, and add some comments, But the bulk of it was written by a confidential source, But I do a tad bit of writing and posted it on Quora, Not many upvotes but sure a LOT of people have checked in & read it. Tonight I got a angry rant from Mr Schacht with a fake account and some bizaar claims not at all accurate.
But you can read it on Quora.. See: https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-craziest-or-extreme-vintage-motorcycle-stories-you-have-heard/answer/Paul-Towsley
It is not a confedential source but a bitter old man that did not take care of buisness and complains when all went south. He was lucky a few honest people stood up for him. Most of the information is untrue. Had he taken care of buisness it wouldnt have taken from 1968 to 2010 to finish a bike. Nazis blah blah stories from an ultra left wingnut that never followed through and blames everyone else even stating others did this and that. Never happened. So tell frank to stop with the falsehoods. He admitted he wrote it.
The part of your story where a whole generation of “hippies” (not like today’s virtuous generation) is thrown in the garbage for selling out and too much bike lust had me reaching for my Harley.
Yeah maybe the hangmen MC touched a nerve…??? ie for one of the “fakers”.. lol
https://postimg.cc/p939Kxhj
And yeah, suppose I do qualify as a bitter old man now… just turned 70…!
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Thanks Paul too for running an honest blog, all the best
Michaels bike has Engine stamp 42-80-400, and Registration plate 20G2011. Was this Engine built in 1942 ? No, how could it, when Pat Folger machined it.
so how did that number get on those cases ? Is it a DMV assigned number ?
“Engine numbers are expected to begin at 400” page 41, 2010 Crocker Register
There is only one DMV assigned Engine number out of all the “Crocker’s” = DMV102-5441
Anyone who can afford to buy a Crocker or a “Crocker” can afford to read the Vehicle Code Sections on the DMV site.
Registration fraud VCS 4463, BUY with intent to sell VCS10803, Penal Code Section 470 , ……
A New manufactured bike in California needs to leap through hoops to pass EPA standards, drum brakes, carb, Catalytic etc
How many Crocker’s were built in 1942 ?
no mechanics were working at the Factory, there was no need for them, they were needed else where. Woman were in the work force for that reason.
Schacht has pics of 3 bikes, the above 42′ bike, the Red 06′ bike which went to Lattin and a small tank, where is that small tank chassis today ?
would that be one of the high dollar classics ? hmm which one ?
Burning question of the Crocker hour…
Where did The Fabulous Baron von Jamesenhausen flee to? ..to New Zealand? Australia? USA? Or perhaps to the Ukraine??
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