According to Confederate-now-Curtiss Motorcycle founder Matt Chambers, if Glenn Curtiss were to launch a motorcycle company in 2018, he would use electric power, just like he pioneered the American V-twin back in 1903. Chambers will reveal to the world his Curtiss Hercules e-bike at The Quail Motorcycle Gathering in Carmel Valley, California on May 5. Curtiss has partnered with Zero Motorcycles for their drivetrain, and the target retail price of the Hercules is $30,000, a far cry from the $100,000-plus the retail price of Confederate motorcycles over the past 25 years.“Seven years ago, in our twentieth year, we began research and development of our fifth-generation architecture,” Chambers said in a recent interview with Alan Cathcart. “We knew we were at a turning point; we had maxed out Glenn Curtiss’s invention of the V-twin American motorcycle. It was time to apply our years of design experience and earned wisdom with the best innovation and technology, just as Mr. Curtiss would do if he were leading us today.”
According to Chambers, the first 300 bikes will be built at his facility in Birmingham.
“But we’re going to create a new environment for the second and third year onwards—going forward based upon what our projections are, and I think we’ll have a pretty good idea from when we strike the match on May 5. Probably by the end of May we’ll have a good sense of what the interest in this program is going to be, and whether or not there really are people out there in their thousands who want to purchase a Curtiss E-cruiser—is it thousands, or is it hundreds, or is it tens of thousands?”
“The Curtiss models will deploy a modular architectural system, the design of which we’ve filed numerous patents on, as the foundation for an all-new Twin-Engine powertrain from the world leader in motorcycle torque production, Zero,” he added. “Their all-new powertrain package embodies a classical proportion, that’s lower, narrower, and with superior weight management to any other two-wheeled EV. The geometry and ergonomics are classic, too, empowering the rider with effortless control, as well as massive acceleration, top speed, handling, and comfort.”According to Chambers, Zero will supply Curtiss with its latest technology in a twin motor package, estimated (by Chambers) to have 175 hp and 290 foot-pounds of torque. Features like dual controllers, air cooling, and battery packs designed specifically for Curtiss. “Curtiss suspension will also be all-new and state-of-the-art, plus we’ll have a breakthrough in transparency, accuracy, and quality of information between the tarmac and the Curtiss rider. Whole new levels of safety have been designed into the Curtiss, which has the goal of being the world leader in this key aspect of riding on the highway. We’re turning many pages here.”“We’ve owned the Curtiss trademark for about seven years, and we acquired it because of my admiration for the achievements of Mr. Curtiss, who I believe was a truly visionary person, and a great motorcyclist,” Chambers explained. “Glenn H. Curtiss was three years ahead of Indian in creating the American V-twin—which they then copied, just as Harley-Davidson did five years later. He was running 136 mph on a motorcycle when those guys were running 50 or 60 mph, and bragging about it. And then he got bored with the whole two-wheel thing, and went off and essentially created flight with the Wright brothers. But he was the one flying the planes, and he designed the engines powering his aircraft, and it’s his rudder design, and all his technology that flies planes today, not theirs.”“He was a very brave man, because he not only rode his own motorcycles on Ormond Beach, but he also flew his own aircraft, including the seaplanes he invented. He was a man’s man—he was a guy who took inordinate risks, he was obviously an incredible technologist, but he’s unknown to the world today! I have great respect for the Harley story, the Indian story and the Triumph story and the BMW story, these are great stories—Honda’s story is a great story. But Glenn Curtiss dwarfs them all, and that’s not a put down to them, just that he was a true innovator whom they essentially copied. I think if Mr. Honda were still with us he’d say, ‘Oh, I’m no Glenn Curtiss!’ I really think he would say that.”Related Posts
November 29, 2017
The Current: Confederate No More – Meet the Curtiss Motorcycle
After 25 years, Confederate Motors…
Notes from the Peanut Gallery: At such a critical moment for a business as this rebranding, its visionaries make here a common and treacherous misstep down the path to reminiscence. The original Mr. Curtiss did not win by suffering the status-quo of his day, masking his V-twin or V8 gas engines to resemble steam plants or horse musculature. His bikes were pure, functional minimalism without frill or pretense. If this firm wants to innovate, they’d best abandon the insecurity that would “theme” their designs on obsolete technology. Let them look boldly like what they are–just as Curtiss did.
Well, tell that to Triumph regarding the Bonneville (their best seller), or Ducati their Scrambler (their best seller), or BMW their RNineT (their best seller), or Harley-Davidson with…their whole product line!
Seriously Paul ? I’d of thought you of all people would be capable of coming up with a more relevant , historically accurate apologetic than that . Assuming of course that a better apologetic can be had : which in this case , it cannot .
Pretense pure and simple is the key word when it comes to ( formerly known as ) Confederate’s futile attempt to reinvent itself as an EV daring to lean on the Curtis moniker in the process
Let’s set the record straight here: Glenn Curtiss didn’t invent the motorcycle, nor did he invent the V-twin, nor did he invent the twist-grip throttle control, as many think. He built an excellent motorcycle with a ball-bearing crankshaft, that was more reliable and faster than his competitors in the ‘Noughts. Curtiss also installed one of his V-8 aircraft engines into a motorcycle chassis, and might have reached 136mph, but regardless he was incredibly brave, although his V-8 affair had nothing to do with motorcycle development. Curtiss was effectively finished with motorcycle design by 1909, leaving production to others, and wrapped up his Curtiss Motorcycle Company in 1912, to focus on aircraft. Had he not taken up flying, his name would rank with Merkel and other American pioneers, meaning he would be forgotten, barring that nutty stunt on Ormond Beach.
On the other hand, Curtiss was tremendously innovative in aircraft design, and built the first proper airplane, and the first proper seaplane, and can be considered the actual father of the aircraft industry. He is rightfully considered a hero for his aviation work. This has nothing to do with motorcycles.
So, answering the comment by jerfishersmith, who criticized the new Curtiss company for relying on the past instead of re-inventing motorcycles, I reminded him that the most popular motorcycles of today, for many companies, are in fact ‘retro’ styles. Not a bad business strategy, apparently.
Is the new Curtiss ‘futile’? Who knows? The company has been known to produce some very interesting motorcycles, whether you like them or not, and these e-Bike sketches are, again, interesting. We’ll see what happens.
Am I missing something here? Google “Wright brother’s patent war” and you’ll see the brothers defending there patents by suing other aviators and companies… “especially Glenn Curtiss”! But the writeup above from Confederate says “Curtiss essentially created flight with the Wright brothers”! Taking nothing away from Glenn Curtiss (a truly great innovator) references to the Wright brothers shouldn’t be used to increase the profile of this “new” company. Confederate has existed for many years pumping out boutique bikes, to think they now are going to re-create motorcycling is stretching the truth. Revisionist aviation history is one thing, but feeding people their vision of “future tech” is stretching it. Usually announcements like this from Confederate in the past are followed by stock offerings. And if you want to glimpse motorcycling’s true future, take a look at automations of projected self driving car highways of the future. No street lights, cars missing each other by inches at intersections… where are you going to ride? Sitting on a two wheeler that “rides” itself isn’t what the bikers of today would call motorcycling. Speaking for myself, when cross traffic barely misses my self-riding bike, I’ll be needing self-cleaning underwear!
Interesting to see these responses. They all seem to have valid points. All good reading, but easily forgotten.
Let’s cut to the bottom line: motorcycles are and always have been inherently unstable vehicles. In the quest for safety they will be outlawed someday. Just like the premise for the TV series being pitched on this site. Lost many friends in street riding accidents and I’m covered in scars from barely escaping the reaper racing superbikes. Has the rush of riding been worth it? After years of thinking about it…I don’t think so. Have I stopped riding? No… I’m a stupid human.
And there lies the problem. Nowadays millennials are turning away from motorcycling, Harley, and motorcycle sales in general, are on the skids. Is self-preservation commonsense finally kicking in? No, after all we are dealing with humans here. People are just addicted to their phones and, while widely considered acceptable to do while driving, texting while riding is just seems too dangerous to them. To travel anywhere safely autonomous cars are going to be the only vehicles that these addicts can be safely herded into.
Confederate’s pitch is they are turning the page on new technology. Yeah right! They have existed for years on investor capital, not from turning a profit. Innovation is not what they are known for. Want to make a motorcycling technical breakthrough Curtiss? Save me from the texting human drivers out there while I’m riding. Otherwise just realize we as motorcyclists are just dinosaurs sliding headfirst into safety oblivion.
Now you’ll have to excuse me… AutoCAD is calling me to finish my 275mph MotoGPe project. Yeah… just another stupid human splat weapon! Can’t wait to ride it!
No, J. surely you must be mistaken about Confederate using someone else’s money to run their “business”. They have been breaking sales records by averaging ONE BIKE sold per week since 1992. Wow! That’s AWESOME! And now they are going to “create a new environment for the second and third year onward”. That’s definitely not a pitch for new “investors!”
Hope everyone reading this can feel the sarcasm I’m putting out. But it truly pales in comparison to the tripe Curfederate is spewing!